Author Topic: No suspicion necessary: DHS can still seize belongings without reason  (Read 238 times)

Justaguy

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The Fourth Amendment no longer means what you once thought it did: A new report reveals that the government has shrugged off concerns over the alleged constitutional infringements of its own citizens near international crossings.
An internal review of the US Department of Homeland Security’s procedures regarding the suspicionless search-and-seizure of phones and laptops near the nation’s border has reaffirmed the agency’s ability to bypass Fourth Amendment-protected rights [.pdf].
In a two page executive summary published quietly last month to the official DHS website, the agency explains that a civil rights and civil liberties impact assessment of the office’s little-known power to collect personal electronics near international crossings has passed an auditor’s interpretation of what does and doesn’t violate the US Constitution.

http://rt.com/usa/news/dhs-search-border-electronics-784/
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Re: No suspicion necessary: DHS can still seize belongings without reason
« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2013, 08:09:18 PM »
The Fourth Amendment no longer means what you once thought it did: A new report reveals that the government has shrugged off concerns over the alleged constitutional infringements of its own citizens near international crossings.
An internal review of the US Department of Homeland Security’s procedures regarding the suspicionless search-and-seizure of phones and laptops near the nation’s border has reaffirmed the agency’s ability to bypass Fourth Amendment-protected rights [.pdf].
In a two page executive summary published quietly last month to the official DHS website, the agency explains that a civil rights and civil liberties impact assessment of the office’s little-known power to collect personal electronics near international crossings has passed an auditor’s interpretation of what does and doesn’t violate the US Constitution.

http://rt.com/usa/news/dhs-search-border-electronics-784/

The laptops and other electronics are the property of sovereign citizens, the data on them are also their possessions, the DHS goons must have a warrant to search.
The data can also be considered communications (papers) and are also protected from un-warranted and unreasonable searches.
The border search is reserved for those that are aliens and suspicious persons only.
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Re: No suspicion necessary: DHS can still seize belongings without reason
« Reply #2 on: February 19, 2013, 09:19:06 AM »
The problem I have is with this part

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and suspicious persons only.

If they want to search your stuff, are you not inherently suspicious?
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